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Loganville Sidewalk to Nowhere Now Going Somewhere

Before construction of sidewalk on the other side of Tommy Lee Fuller Road began this week, residents were a little perplexed by a sidewalk and stop signs that appeared in the middle of Tommy Lee Fuller Road.

Loganville has been actively installing sidewalks in areas around the city in keeping with initial requests from residents and proposals that came out of the Livable Centers Initiative that was conducted a few years ago. Money from the Special Local Option Sales Tax was appropriated for the sidewalks and many of them have already been constructed. Included in these upgrades were road improvements to Tommy Lee Fuller Road and the combination of the two recently caused some confusion for local residents.

When first constructed, the crosswalk appeared to go nowhere, resulting in it being branded "the crosswalk to nowhere." In addition, there was little more than one car length between that and another stop sign.

"I'm just as confused why one has been put in at all on that road. ...but then they moved it there??? Talk about completely random and stupid. Can't wait to hear the reasoning behind it all," someone commented on Facebook.

When the forming for the other side went in on Thursday, it did however make a little more sense. According to city officials, they had no choice - it was required by state law.

"When you make alterations or undertake construction on any road, as we did with Tommy Lee Fuller, you have no choice but to bring it up to code," Councilman Skip Baliles said. "Which is what we did. We have, however, now moved the other stop sign that didn't make any sense."

The crosswalk now no longer appears to go nowhere - it gives people walking on the sidewalk a place to cross the road and pick up the sidewalk on the other side. Another commenter on Facebook did see the merit in this.

"Kids who walk to school cross there every day twice a day. I personally am so glad that they finally put up a stop sign there. It will slow people down and hopefully save a life or two," she commented.

Some other traffic news updates around the city, however, were not so good. Officials announced at Thursday's City Council meeting that despite a request and a study, the Georgia Department of Transportation declined a traffic light at the intersection of Huntington Ridge and Highway 20 south.

"We will keep trying to find a solution though," Baliles said. "But for right now they have declined that traffic light."

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ED CARR January 12, 2013 at 06:40 pm
Who are the CLOWNS at the state level that set up the CODE that requires so much wasted tax payer money?
Katie B. January 12, 2013 at 08:08 pm
I never see people crossing the street there and I live in the neighborhood right there. There is never any traffic issues that would be fixed by the stop sign. Bc there is virtually NO foot traffic, I see the stop sign and crosswalk as a silly careless waste of money
Dee K. January 12, 2013 at 08:39 pm
The new stop sign is pointless and the neighborhood refers to it as a "Squirrel Crossing" because squirrels will be the only ones who need to cross the street there. Kids going to school either go by car or school bus. There is hardly any foot traffic along that part of Tommy Lee Fuller Road. Another waste of money to justify somebody's bloated salary.
Karen January 12, 2013 at 08:40 pm
Why are the stop signs where they are? They actually made a little more sense where they were before (of course they seemed a little silly there, too).
A January 12, 2013 at 09:31 pm
The money should have gone to a traffic light installed at the intersection of Tommy Lee Fuller Rd and GA 20. One of the busiest and unsafest places stop sign intersections to make a left turn back onto GA 20. Hopefully, city officials will realize the daily traffic backups and fix this problem ASAP to prevent accidents!
ED CARR January 13, 2013 at 02:16 am
The city officials seem to have no COMMON SENSE. They seem to be trying to act like the CLOWNS in Washington D C. I am thinking about going up to Tommy Lee Fuller and conducting my own survey of the foot traffic on the sidewalks to nowhere.
Good Grief Y'all January 13, 2013 at 12:05 pm
Where Loganville really, really needs a traffic light is on 78 at the entrance to the Publix Shopping Center. Don't tell me it's too close to 78/Main-GA 20. Look at all the businesses on both sides of the highway there. Life, limb and property are at risk trying to make a left out of that shopping center, so if you're smart you turn right and circle back, creating a more convoluted traffic flow.
Jeff January 13, 2013 at 03:45 pm
I always turn right then left on C S Floyd if I need to circle back. Faster sometimes than waiting at Publix to turn left.
Robert Bliss January 13, 2013 at 10:40 pm
How did we get from a conversation about stop signs on TLF Road to stop lights on Hwy 20 & Hwy 81? If the City of Loganville is truly concerned over the safety of pedestrians on TLF Road, they need to put s street crossing just West of Alexander Crossing Apartment Homes onto the back entrance to the Ingles Shopping Center road. This is the only place where I have ever seen any pedestrian traffic of any volume trying to get across TLF Road one way or the other. The Crosswalk in front of the Southern Plantation property is absolutely rediculous and a waste of resources.
Becky January 13, 2013 at 11:43 pm
The original location of the new stop signs (TLF & Baker Carter) was ridiculous, the new location is a joke! Hundreds of cars a day are now expected to stop at a stop sign where only 2 or 3 people MIGHT cross each day.
If anyone is walking to school, it is usually from the Towler Shoals Subdivision further up the road. There's no way they are going to walk down to this stop sign to cross and come back to where they started in the first place. My opinion: Sidewalks - great! Stop signs - STUPID!
Good Grief Y'all January 15, 2013 at 03:18 pm
That's the safest thing to do, Jeff, and usually quickest.
Good Grief Y'all January 15, 2013 at 03:24 pm
Well Robert, as often happens on these threads, one comment leads to another, to another, expanding the topic. But, at least it's all about traffic. A traffic light placed where needed for vehicles would also bring crosswalks and reduce the need to jaywalk. Sidewalks, crosswalks, stop signs, traffic lights - all related to pedestrian and vehicular traffic.
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Tammy Osier June 18, 2013 at 01:08 am
Sadly, Mr. Newman, we have people who live in a utopic vision of the world and refuse to believeRead More that this can happen. Sounds a bit like 1984. Ironic too, is that in the bible, when the Lord was referring to people being blinded and going astray, he referred to them as sheep, and that phrase has been coined today to denote the same type of mentality. This could happen if our watchmen stop guarding the gate.
Rona Gibbs Watts June 17, 2013 at 02:50 pm
I would be stir crazy if this was my missing dog.
Rona Gibbs Watts June 17, 2013 at 02:52 pm
Have the area Vet offices been contacted or has she be checked for a microchip? People, PLEASERead More microchip your dogs.
tijensen June 15, 2013 at 12:34 pm
The better assignment would have been how could you have written a letter to try and convince themRead More not to commit suicide. To persuade them about all the wonderful things you love about them, how special they are and what the world would miss if they were not in it. A creative teacher could have used the same exercise to teach a life lesson that may have helped someone save a life down the road.
Tammy Osier June 15, 2013 at 12:40 pm
TJ, exactly. Like you said, a GOOD teacher would have found a way to make students think outside theRead More box yet still examine the mood of the story. But I do agree with ggy that it might have been more appropriate for a college aged student. High school (girls especially) have so much drama going on inside of them, and confusion about so many things, that it might be impossible for them to be objective in an assignment like that. Boo to the teacher.
flyinby June 15, 2013 at 08:34 pm
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Octo Slash June 14, 2013 at 12:18 pm
My kids drink coffee every morning because they need something to accompany their cigarettes.
Tammy Osier June 14, 2013 at 01:12 pm
Tr - the perfect diet - the Mediterranean diet has a lot of fish in it. Olive oils etc... OurRead More American diet has a lot of animal fat in it and look at us as opposed to other nations! Fish oil is brain food. A multi is good, but we should ask our pediatricians about adding fish oil to our kids' diets. We should get our (good) fats through diet. Good fats help vitamins go where they are supposed to and do what they're supposed to do.
Deedee June 15, 2013 at 08:12 pm
My grandma always drunk coffee all day and I started around 30 and I am no good without at least oneRead More cup a day but she always stated that we couldn't have any as kids because it will stunt our growth. I have always felt that there is something to many of those old sayings and did not let my son touch it.
Tammy Osier June 17, 2013 at 01:53 pm
DR, seems like an oxymoron doesn't it? I'd like to hear from someone who is actually from there toRead More find out their spin on why they even enter a contestant in the first place. It's my understanding that a woman that shows that much skin in public will be flogged or worse? Maybe democracy is taking ahold in some places, who knows?
Good Grief Y'all June 17, 2013 at 03:24 pm
I was wrong. Guys are interested pageants. You would no doubt be happy if the contestants justRead More wore the face shawl with their bikinis.
Karsten Torch June 17, 2013 at 04:30 pm
Couple of thoughts - One, why hold it in a land where there is going to be this kind of protest?Read More Just move it and don't worry about it. Other, I find it interesting how the Muslims want us to be understanding and inclusive of their beliefs, but don't even think they'll allow anything they don't agree with. Just a tad bit hypocritical...
R June 14, 2013 at 02:06 am
You mean the FEES don't you? Cause they aint taxes don't you know...
Bonnie June 14, 2013 at 11:50 am
I call it a "rainbow!"
M.K. Osborne June 14, 2013 at 03:30 pm
Fees is when its lightning too .
Mr. B June 13, 2013 at 01:29 pm
They're not Americans. They don't deserve to step foot on American soil.
Good Grief Y'all June 13, 2013 at 01:34 pm
Meh, a difference without distinction.
Good Grief Y'all June 13, 2013 at 01:37 pm
Huh, you learn something once in a while on Patch blog threads. I didn't know you must be anRead More American citizen to be tried and convicted of crimes against America . . . ;p I think John and Sarah could handle them . . . you betcha! They would probably beg to be sent back to Gitmo. LOL
EMILY GOLDSTEIN June 7, 2013 at 10:35 am
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EMILY GOLDSTEIN June 8, 2013 at 02:24 am
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EMILY GOLDSTEIN June 10, 2013 at 03:11 am
Reunited!
Good Grief Y'all June 12, 2013 at 11:43 am
The top marginal tax rate in 1945 was 94%; today it is 35%. This info from one of the slides in theRead More article on various tax charts, including corporate. "A look at 2010 data reveals that the U.S. is one of the least taxed countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD), according to a study released Monday by Citizens For Tax Justice. The CTJ added up federal, state and local tax revenue. The only countries in the OECD that collected a smaller percentage in taxes are Chile and Mexico, according to the data. The OECD is a group of 34 countries that work together to improve the global economy." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/us-lowest-taxes-most-industralized-countries_n_3039470.html?utm_hp_ref=business&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D295994
Good Grief Y'all June 12, 2013 at 12:30 pm
So, B, are you saying no corporations pay taxes? If that were true, why do they offshoreRead More manufacturing and money to avoid and evade? Some don't pay depending on their structure, many do. US corps don't pay as much as most in developed countries, and they sure won't go along with paying more or seeing their CEOs pay more on individual returns. According to the OECD as mentioned in the link, US corporations pay an e f f e c t i v e rate of 13%. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/08/us-lowest-taxes-most-industralized-countries_n_3039470.html?utm_hp_ref=business&icid=maing-grid7%7Cmain5%7Cdl1%7Csec3_lnk2%26pLid%3D295994
Maria Navarro June 13, 2013 at 04:36 pm
Most of the government organizations cannot be trusted, as they have been filled with mostly crooksRead More (not all, but a good majority who use their power to fill their pockets)therefore, I think the IRS should be abolished. We need to go to a FAIR TAX and this way EVERYONE would have to pay their fair share!
Karsten Torch June 6, 2013 at 02:02 pm
My wife has this lovely thing she does where she gasps for no apparent reason, or tells me to lookRead More out or something, always for something obvious. And I wind up looking for something else. Drives me nuts. Good thing, after 22 years, she does it much much less now.
Karsten Torch June 6, 2013 at 02:06 pm
One of my favorites: A wife was making a breakfast of fried eggs for her husband. Suddenly, herRead More husband burst into the kitchen. “Careful,” he said, “CAREFUL! Put in some more butter! Oh my GOD! You’re cooking too many at once. TOO MANY! Turn them! TURN THEM NOW! We need more butter. Oh my GOD! WHERE are we going to get MORE BUTTER? They’re going to STICK! Careful. CAREFUL! I said be CAREFUL! You NEVER listen to me when you’re cooking! Never! Turn them! Hurry up! Are you CRAZY? Have you LOST your mind? Don’t forget to salt them. You know you always forget to salt them. Use the salt. USE THE SALT! THE SALT!” The wife stared at him. “What in the world is wrong with you? You think I don’t know how to fry a couple of eggs?” The husband calmly replied, “I just wanted to show you what it feels like when I’m driving.”
Robbi McCaig June 6, 2013 at 04:15 pm
Remember, when you critisize your wife's choices---you were one of them.