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Report of Shots Fired Closes Bay Creek Park

Gwinnett Police closed Bay Creek Park in Grayson Friday night after a report of shots fired. No injuries were reported and it appears that no weapons were found. Witnesses say an altercation between a group of teenage boys was the problem.

A report that shots were fired brought to at about 9 p.m. on Friday night. Witnesses say that there was an altercation involving about 10-14 teenage boys. The park was shut down on the arrival of Gwinnett County PD and those in the park were allowed to leave around 10 p.m.

While there is no confirmation of shooting, police did search the grounds near an older blue pick-up parked in the lot which serves the basketball court and skate park. Officers on the scene reported no injuries.

Crystal Huskey October 08, 2011 at 05:51 PM
Good grief. I live on the Centerville side of Snellville, and I hear gunshots all the time, at least once a month. It's scary.
Crystal Huskey October 08, 2011 at 05:56 PM
I take that back. I USED to. It's been about a year since I heard them that often.
Gail Lane October 08, 2011 at 06:00 PM
Crystal, for better or for worse, the witnesses we spoke to couldn't really say with any certainty if shots were fired because they actually had never heard REAL gunfire. One young man suggested it may have been a pellet gun. The officers at the scene wouldn't confirm either way. Nevertheless, they treated the scene very seriously.
Tammy Osier October 08, 2011 at 06:19 PM
Gail - As they should treat is seriously. I'm working on a Patch piece concerning gangs. Walton is a small town now, but growing rapidly. Gangs and crime are closer than we think and we need to be proactive in our community before things get out of hand. South Gwinnett is one of the worst areas - right in our back yard.
Crystal Huskey October 08, 2011 at 06:37 PM
We used to have a LOT of gang activity on this side of town. Five Halloweens ago, a man and his 11 year old nephew were mugged in my neighborhood. (It was a gang from Shiloh, and one of the boys lived in our neighborhood.) They stole the kids candy and the uncle's wallet! So sad. I guess it's been long enough now that those boys have graduated and moved on.
Tammy Osier October 08, 2011 at 07:22 PM
Graduated and moved on or locked up for a worse crime. Seems hard to believe that younger kids can commit heinous crimes but they can. Committing a crime is a part of the initiation into a gang. Once in the gang, the older ones use 10 and 11 year old kids since if they get caught it'll only result in a juvenile record. So important to keep our children the numbr one priority while growing up.
Amy October 09, 2011 at 11:44 AM
Glad this story has been reported on the Patch. Here's the video of the altercation. It was posted on worldstarhiphop website. The title of the video is skateboarders vs. thugs. This is frightening to me on so many levels. http://www.worldstarhiphop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhPjn5f6Oxj9SxqTN7
Sharon Swanepoel October 09, 2011 at 11:57 AM
Wow, Amy, just wow!! Thank you so much for sharing this video. You're right, frightening on so many levels.
Gail Lane October 09, 2011 at 12:55 PM
Thanks, Amy. The video pretty much confirms what some of the nearby residents had said. There seems to be ongoing tension between some the skateboarders and some thugs. They reported that several weeks ago, the basketball court AND the skatepark emptied out and several walked away with bloody noses and scratches. The other end of the park is so different; parents watching their kids play ball and being part of the experience. Let's call it supervised. This front end of the park is supposed to be a place for some of the older kids to be part of some very cool activities with a skateboarding bowl, jumps, etc. and an area for safe basketball play. I'm not sure how to keep it supervised to keep it safe, but I suspect we'll need to keep an eye on it for sure.
Mandi Kraus October 09, 2011 at 04:48 PM
This is very disconcerting to me as a parent of 4 young kids that play ball at BayCreek Park. When the skatepark first opened we went up there a few times for the kids to play, but now we won't because of what we've seen up there. There is no respect for our park by those that hang out up there. They leave it looking nasty and have more than once defaced the property. What really upsets me and a lot of baseball/softball parents is that we are the ones paying for them to have the ability to hang out there, especially at night. The cost for the lights is paid by all the registration fees that are collected. Just a shame that they choose to act like this.
M Lipsey October 09, 2011 at 05:11 PM
I wateched the video. probably the same group I saw up there fighting a couple weeks ago. As I was driving in to take my boys to ball practice, there was a huge brawl going on in the skate park. I pulled in the tennis courts and called the police. Maybe they need to close the skatepark and bb courts for a bit.
Donna Harvey Brunswick October 10, 2011 at 02:50 PM
There definitely were shots fired. My sons were at the skate park at the time, and there was at least one shell casing found in the parking lot. Several of the kids got video on their phones, and there were at least 5 shots clearly heard.
Gail Lane October 10, 2011 at 05:16 PM
Donna, we have since confirmed the shots fired and have seen at least one of the videos. The scene was chaotic when we arrived and we were only able to release witness accounts of the incidents. I do so hope that these videos have been turned over to GCPD so they may further investigate and make our community park safe for our children.
Sharon Swanepoel October 10, 2011 at 06:04 PM
I have now got some information from the police and am waiting for a follow up before writing the story, but it is confirmed that shell casings were found.
Kristy McCullers October 10, 2011 at 06:21 PM
I heard there was a huge fight behind Huddle House in Snellville Friday night along with drinking teenagers and what seemed like a gang. 911was called and the police didn't seem too concerned. The group moved over to FB Snellville and were asked to leave. I haven't found any report on it.
Kristy McCullers October 10, 2011 at 06:22 PM
I was raised in Snellville and this is sad.
Amy October 11, 2011 at 01:58 AM
I hope they find these kids and knock some senses into their heads. Someone could have died Friday night. Like most parks, Bay Creek should open at dawn & close by dusk. No exceptions.
Rachel Cesar October 11, 2011 at 04:43 AM
Unfortunately the combination of teenage activities (baketball courts and skate boardramps) and lack of supervision leads to petty crimes... there is no reason why the park must stay open after dark... close the park and force these teenagers to find some where else to hang out. Parents have to know where their children are at night and what they are doing. I have a teenage son... and while I do NOT let him hang out in the park after dark, if I did, I would not leave him completely unattended. I would drive by occassionally to make sure that he was safe and that the other kids were behaving responsibly. If I lived closer to the park I would make it my daily business to not only drive by regularly after dark but to call the police each and every time I even suspected that there might be a problem. Constant, regular police and adult presence will make the park uncomfortable for thugs and trouble makers. So, until a permanent solution is found the residents in that area need to make policing the park a priority... once the thugs take over the park then our neighborhoods are next... Let's stop them now!
Tammy Osier October 11, 2011 at 10:23 AM
Police and adult presence are the key. But notice that the first cuts that are made when cities are making decisions are law enforcement and anyone involved with safety. We have city council seats available right now, and I hope we elect the right people. Read my Patch story on law enforcement and the bootcamp and see what a difference it is making! (I'm also working on a two part series on "gangs", so stay tuned). Gwinnett could use that type of program (bootcamp) but also need to make sure that they are supporting their local law enforcement. They are vital to the safety of our kids.
Donna Brunswick October 11, 2011 at 03:01 PM
The park has to be open after dark to accommodate the youth sports programs. We need places for kids to go and hang out, and if they're active at the same time, even better. But there should be supervision in that area, without a doubt. Especially since it's not just kids that hang out there. It's was older teens/adults that were the problem in this situation, not the kids who went to hang out and ride their bikes or skate.
Slightly Interested October 12, 2011 at 05:59 PM
This is a daily thing at these parks, Parents drop their thugs (Innocent kids) off for free baby sitting. They use the bike paths as boxing rings and parking lots as a hang out. Parents then seem to act like they knew nothing like this is happening...Pay attention to your kids and this doesnt happen. Though I am sure all the videos watched about this on youtube will prove that the apples truly did not fall too far from the tree. Thugs breed thugs
Tammy Osier October 13, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Precisely the reason that our taxes need to be used on more security and less trees and frilly things. Gwinnett has always done an excellent job and has one of the best Police Forces in the state (as does Loganville). It's not whether the the Police force is good, it's whether decisions with taxpayer money prioritizes these things. I can't help but remember when Atlanta made cuts in those areas. Now, that's scary.
GardenMagik ~ Melissa Allman October 13, 2011 at 05:08 PM
wow... i think a lot of young folks are de-sensitized these days. They see so much violence on t.v. and in the on-line games that they think its a normal way of life. The person doing the video never even jumped- even though you can clearly hear the first shot at 1:03...
Slightly Interested October 13, 2011 at 05:35 PM
The ghetto has come to grayson...he promised change and it has arrived....thanks Obama !

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