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Is Arming Principals the Answer to School Violence?

A Georgia lawmaker thinks it would at least send a message.

WSBTV Channel Two recently reported that Georgia Rep. Paul Battles, a Republican from Bartow County, is proposing that in the absence of an armed school resource officer, the school principal be trained and armed. There would be a cost involved — that of purchasing the guns and training the principals. It wouldn’t, however, be as costly as paying a full-time salary for a school resource officer. Battles said it would at least send a message to anyone contemplating anything like the massacre that happened in Newtown, Conn.

"If you come in and try to do harm to children and administrators you are going to be met with force," Battles told Channel 2.

But not everyone agrees. One parent reportedly said he didn’t believe adding more guns to the mix is the answer to the problem.

What do you think? Is arming and training school principals the right way to go in the absence of trained police officers in the schools?

r patton January 17, 2013 at 03:37 PM
Harnett --- you made the wrong remark, its' not "......unless the person is trained and "willing" to take a life". You should have said, are you willing to "Protect" lives that would have been taken otherise".
r patton January 17, 2013 at 03:46 PM
No, it is the solution. While living in Florida, all the schools my kids attended had armed Resource Officers (Sheriff's Deputies) from 7am to 4pm. And, I know for a fact, numerous other school personnel had guns in their trucks, cars etc. And, in order to get into the school, you had to pass by the deputies desk and the main office AND.... video cameras. If someone tried to get out or in via the fire doors, an alarm was sounded and numerous people would respond to the alarm, including the deputy. The years my kids were in school, there was NOT one incident of any kind invloving guns, knives etc.
Karsten Torch January 17, 2013 at 04:38 PM
Gun culture. Not guns. The culture around these thugs and others is the problem. Needs to be addressed. Me and those I know with the guns are not the problem. Responsible people are not who we need to take guns from, that's not going to help anybody. I'm also a little confused as to what you mean by 'gun culture.' Could you elaborate a bit?
Good Grief Y'all January 17, 2013 at 11:32 PM
That's brazen of you Racer, after that awful wrong-headed comment you made (and deleted) on that other blog. You're wrong that I'm wrong, and I'm right that you're wrong.
Good Grief Y'all January 17, 2013 at 11:33 PM
Karsten, please. You know what gun culture is. It's you.
Racer X January 17, 2013 at 11:36 PM
Uh...alrighty then.
Racer X January 17, 2013 at 11:49 PM
Not everyone should carry. It's not for everyone, only for those who can have a resolve to protect their charges no matter what.
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 12:25 AM
Hey, Racer, want to tell us what happened to the comment you wrote on that Arthur guy's blog? The one that mysteriously disappeared? You guys keep on proving my points. Thanks for that!
Racer X January 18, 2013 at 12:37 AM
GGY- You're right, it's not street thugs, it's Democrats: Ft Hood~~~ Registered Democrat ~ Muslim Columbine ~~~ Too young to vote; both families were registered Democrats and progressive liberals Virginia Tech ~~~ Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff ~ Registered Democrat Colorado Theater ~~~ Registered Democrat; staff worker on the Obama campaign; Occupy Wall Street participant; progressive liberal Connecticut School Shooter- ~~~ Registered Democrat; hated Christians. What do you say to that Bessie.
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Don't know about Bessie, but I say you're hardcore mentally challenged and uneducable :D Isn't it past your bedtime?
Racer X January 18, 2013 at 01:13 AM
GGY- Time for bed? Is that an invitation? Please, I just ate :-)
Racer X January 18, 2013 at 01:22 AM
Becky- Good point, obviously they needed that and a few more "no guns" signs. That would of stopped him, oh, and some more laws, that would have helped too.
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Racer, get some psychiatric help. You're a real sicko. I'm serious. You have a problem with the female gender. I bet I'm not the only person who has diagnosed you.
Racer X January 18, 2013 at 12:50 PM
Actually, I greatly respect the majority of women I meet. It's just you whom I disrespect.
Rebecca McCarthy (Editor) January 18, 2013 at 12:53 PM
Attention, shoppers: Comments will be deleted if they aren't deemed germane to the thread, or if they attack other people personally who are on the thread instead of countering or endorsing their position. Thanks.
Jim S January 18, 2013 at 01:30 PM
I am sorry to have come into this conversation so late, but here is my $.02. The Georgia CWP has no proficiency testing as a prerequisite to purchase. This is different in Texas and other states, where citizens must pass a test in order to qualify for concealed carry permits. The idea of open carry has good and bad points. I have carried both ways, and prefer concealed to avoid comments, both good and bad, about my choice. A balance of common sense laws directed at gun permitting, mental health and personality profiles is necessary. I have taken simulation training to see if I was able to 'shoot' an attacker. It is harder than you think. As to arming school officials, I feel that, if the above testing and training is conducted, a person, teacher or anyone else, should be allowed to carry anywhere he or she wishes. It is TOO easy to legally carry a weapon. Jim
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 02:31 PM
Racer, a man with integrity and honor respects others, women, too. You don't. You single me out because I have a world view you disagree with and I won't cower at your insults. That's not at all manly. You must feel threatened by me. You shouldn't. While I don't agree with and often cringe at the things you write, I respect your right to say them. Unfortunately, I don't get to enjoy that on Patch without someone following me around from thread to thread to pounce with venom. Based on what I have read, you only respect other women who agree with you. I'm not the only one you disagree with, but the only one you and your friends stalk/haunt/harass/pester. That shows what you all are about and discredits anything you say.
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 02:41 PM
Thank you, Rebecca. I can make your job easier. Most of the abusers are following me. I do return their fire, but usually I'm just giving them what they want by doing so. It would really be nice to be able to post and not dread the next unnecessary exchange that will inevitably appear, no matter the subject. Some of them may not know what constitutes a "personal" attack, but most know only too well.
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 02:43 PM
Yes! I agree to most of your post, but not so sure any person, teacher, should carry in the schools.
John B January 18, 2013 at 02:59 PM
LOL...good grief...good grief....you're the biggest offender but somehow think you're exempt. And no one has to follow you anywhere....you post a thousand times to each and every blog....trust me...I'm trying to avoid you but it's impossible because you're the resident expert on well.....everything.
Karsten Torch January 18, 2013 at 03:16 PM
So....in other words, you can't define it. Thanks for clarifying....
Karsten Torch January 18, 2013 at 03:18 PM
Wow, this whole post has degenerated into GGY whining, reminding me of my daughter when she was three saying "uh uh, YOU are!" Oh, and complaining nonstop to Patch. Was fun to watch for a while, now it's just kinda boring....
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 05:10 PM
Well, I did define it. It's you. You don't know who you are? Not my problem.
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 05:18 PM
You give me too much credit, JB. 1000s? Too funny. I may post more than you, but unlike you I address the topic. You often write only for the purpose of attacking. I post way less than others and not on all articles and blogs. If Patch finds my comments offensive, I have no problem with them being deleted. It would be nice to know the reason but not necessary. If others find my comments offensive they can flag them and Patch can decide. If you and your buds don't like my comments you enjoy your personal attacks and taunts. Are you in the category of not knowing what a personal attack is, or the one in which you know and delight in making them?
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 05:23 PM
That's not true. There are plenty of comments on topic, it's just that you and your posse just zoom in on mine. Well, I'm sure you won't waste any time finding another blog where you can post your torture of logic. Who said that? That was spot on. I'm not complaining to Patch. I made an observation. I think it just hit too close to home with Karsten and company.
Racer X January 18, 2013 at 05:54 PM
There she goes again, "That's what you are but what am I?" Pretty soon I am expecting "Nanny nanny boo boo, stick your head in doo doo". Since we all know mental illness is a big problem, can we start by all chipping in for some counseling for GGY? Or perhaps a muzzle? Straight-jacket? Paper bag?
Karsten Torch January 18, 2013 at 06:49 PM
That was a good one. Must have taken you all day to think of that retort. And it stills tells me you can't define it. Unless you think 'gun culture' is those people that own guns. Or is it the ones that just like guns? Or those that believe we should have them? Because there's plenty of people out there that believe in our right to have them that haven't bought any. You know, those people that believe in the 2nd Amendment. Maybe THAT'S your definition. "Gun culture" is that subculture of people that believe in the Constitution! Perfect, glad we could come to that understanding....
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 07:24 PM
Don't pat yourself on the back, KT. I would never waste that much time on you and yours. I'm just a little sick of the attacks, dreading the sure-as-shootin' assault - don't you like that phrase? ;) that I know will come with anything I write, and didn't want to expound upon it. Makes me sigh-inducing weary at times. But, here you are go - the gun culture, based on everything I have read on the subject from you. . . your mentality is the gun culture. The gun culture is the subset of society that thinks owning whatever type of gun and ammunition you want to have is more valuable and important than the right of innocents to expect to go to school and return home again, or go to the movies, shop at the mall, attend a concert or political event, go to the store to buy food for your family, go to work, etc., and not be shot to shreds because they went to those places and didn't hide in an arsenal-filled bunker instead. The gun culture may or may not include sensible, responsible, honorable gun owners, but it certainly includes those who consider them as playtoys for their entertainment and enjoyment, those who are careless with their storage and use, those who build their macho-man image on them, those who use them to threaten and intimidate others, those who would turn them on their own families in a moment of rage. (continued . . . )
Good Grief Y'all January 18, 2013 at 07:30 PM
The gun culture includes those who use the 2nd Amendment as a front, an excuse, for whatever reason they have for justifying their ownership of military-grade weapons. The gun culture includes, to the largest degree, the NRA, blood-sucking lobby that it has become, and gun and ammunition manufacturers. It includes the greedy, corrupt Congress people who will do their bidding for campaign funds and to ensure they're not black-balled for re-election. There, whew! I think I got it all out. I feel better. Thanks for pushing me, Karsten. Aren't you glad you asked?
Karsten Torch January 18, 2013 at 10:05 PM
"The gun culture includes those who use the 2nd Amendment as a front, an excuse, for whatever reason they have for justifying their ownership of military-grade weapons." Huh. You mean those that actually know the purpose of the 2nd Amendment? Yep, then we're the 'gun culture' allright. "The gun culture is the subset of society that thinks owning whatever type of gun and ammunition you want to have is more valuable and important than the right of innocents to expect to go to school and return home again, or go to the movies, shop at the mall, attend a concert or political event, go to the store to buy food for your family, go to work, etc., and not be shot to shreds because they went to those places and didn't hide in an arsenal-filled bunker instead." Yeah, we're the ones that realize there are evil bastards out there, and would rather be able to defend ourselves, our family, and other innocents in the face of these evil people. How you get from owning guns and believing in the second amendment to somehow we're hindering the 'rights' of people to go out and enjoy recreation is unfathomable. I mean, that's some seriously screwed up logic. Somehow, in your head, keeping innocents and law-abiding citizens from guns is going to keep criminals and the insane from committing crimes. Good luck with that.

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