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Eye in the Sky! How Do You Feel About Domestic Drones?

It is being reported that the U.S. now has plans to keep an eye on its own citizens from tiny drones in the sky. How do you feel about this?

According to The Daily Mail in the United Kingdom, the United States government is considering using tiny drones, some no more than the size of golf balls, to keep an eye on its citizens from the sky.

The Daily Mail reports that a 30-page memorandum issued by President Barack Obama’s Secretary to the Air Force in April claimed these tiny drones may be used “to collect information about U.S. persons.”

The government’s use of drone strikes to kill suspected terrorists overseas has already drawn criticism from many quarters. it is unlikely a plan to use drones on its own citizens, even if just for surveillance purposes, will be met with much more support.

How do you feel about the U.S. government’s possible use of drones to monitor its own citizens?  

North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 01:45 PM
Very, very bad idea and overstepping the limits of what the government should be doing. You should be very afraid of big brother watching.
moon stroller June 12, 2012 at 02:11 PM
It works two ways. Any citizen can build these small devices and eavesdrop on their neighbors or their local representatives. I think such activity will only give the gangsters an opportunity to use their guns for target practice. In other words. It isn't going to happen because it would: 1. Cause too much of a stir in the community, effecting election results. 2. Increase the incidence of discharging weapons. 3. People would catch them with nets and steal the innards for parts on their remote controlled cars, planes and helicopters. <smile>
moon stroller June 12, 2012 at 02:15 PM
After doing a lot of checking, I discovered that this report: "...The Daily Mail reports that a 30-page memorandum issued by President Barack Obama’s Secretary to the Air Force in April claimed these tiny drones may be used “to collect information about U.S. persons..." is a false rumor, intended to make the president look bad, in other words, "smearmail". I would think that a news media outlet like the patch would consider this and check it out before printing it as the truth. <smile>
North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 02:16 PM
There are already devices that plug into your car to track what you're doing, ways to track you on your cell phone, and now eyes in the sky. It's an insidious technology creep that slowly keeps talking away personal freedoms and privacy. Keep in mind that some of these drones are so small that you would never see them in the sky.
Perry Parks (Editor) June 12, 2012 at 02:19 PM
This is being considered by some state and local governments, too -- at least in Virginia: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/05/gov-bob-mcdonnell-supports-drones-policing-virginia-76464.html
North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 02:22 PM
http://www.aclu.org/blog/tag/domestic-drones
North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 02:24 PM
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/04/24/faa-releases-list-of-registered-domestic-drone-operators
North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 02:26 PM
http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/air-force-drones-domestic-spy/
North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 02:32 PM
And even more scary... http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/29/feds-ndaa-silence-journalists-critical-government-108512/
David June 12, 2012 at 02:52 PM
Oboboo doesn't need smear mail to make him look bad.
Brian Crawford June 12, 2012 at 03:46 PM
I hate to say it but this really is some shoddy journalism. The Air Force memo in question is basically an instruction manual outlining the rules of engagement for gathering satellite (yes, they've been looking at us for years with the big eye in the sky) and drone imagery, both foreign and domestic. There are obviously legitimate uses for such imagery beyond national security. Drones are already being used for some EPA studies for example. Some states are already planning to use drones as a law enforcement tool so it's important we have rules. I would worry much more about the state and local use of drones personally. From the memo: "1. Purpose. Intelligence oversight (IO) involves a balancing of two fundamental interests: obtaining the intelligence information required to protect national security and protecting individual rights guaranteed by the Constitution and the laws of the United States (US). The primary objective of the IO Program is to ensure that units and staff organizations conducting intelligence activities do not infringe on or violate the rights of US persons. However, it is important to note that the program applies to all intelligence activities whether they deal with US person information or not. Commanders, inspectors general, and judge advocates at all levels need to be cognizant of IO policies and requirements." Read it yourself. http://www.kob.com/kobtvimages/repository/cs/files/AirForceUnclassifiedDocument.pdf
North Georgia Weather June 12, 2012 at 05:13 PM
How did we get by for so long without drones watching us?
moon stroller June 12, 2012 at 06:26 PM
As a ham radio operator, yes, I have scanned people's phone calls...... I can tell you one thing about most people's calls....... they are boring, mostly non-sexual and filled with silence. Then they say..."... well, I guess I'll call you later....bye..." I can assure you the agents who have to listen to those calls are only doing it with people who are a bit more exciting to listen to.... that is... high risk people, cons, crooks and mostly other government officials. Have no fear, no one wants to listen to most of us. The one's that want to know how we feel and think are the advertisement agencies, not the government.
moon stroller June 12, 2012 at 06:41 PM
You'll never convince these people of that. They want to think that someone out there really wants to know what is on their mind when no one really does. <smile> To listen to everyones calls it would take: 275 million people making at least 2 calls per day talking at least 5 min per call. That comes to approx: 45,833 million hours of call time and would require: 45,000 million / 8 hours = 5,729,166 million agents working 8 hours a day to listen to. If each agent makes 65,000.00 per year that comes to: $$ 372,395,833,333.33 in tax payer dollars. I think thats 375 billion dollars per year. But then again, if you can convince people that you are listening, you might cut a lot of the chatter out so you can listen to some real national security, need to know, conversations. I this country were to turn into a real police state, people would get mad and revolt. No politician wants that to happen. It would also end capitalism, which would really peave off a bunch of rich people. Think about it. Do the math.....
Mitch June 12, 2012 at 07:10 PM
Forget the domestic drones and government eyes. I think we are already being heavily watched by Pagans.
Brian Crawford June 13, 2012 at 01:26 AM
Just for the record, "President Barack Obama’s Secretary to the Air Force" Michael B. Donley was originally appointed by George W. Bush in June of 2008 so you know what that means... Yes indeed! Once again we can BLAME IT ON BUSH...... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew June 13, 2012 at 02:51 AM
Or it's yet another example of a broken promise of CHANGE we were fed in 2008... If you run on "change" and keep "doing" what was done before - Where's the CHANGE? (Smiles)
Andy Hall June 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Absolutely against the government using 'spy' drones to monitor citizens in the USA. This can be presented in a 'keep us safe' argument and the reality is it's just another small erosion of our civil liberties one bit at a time. I have no faith that once used the limits of use will quickly grow to abuse of authority.
Brian Crawford June 13, 2012 at 01:50 PM
All kidding aside, drone technology is here to stay. There is no putting the genie back in the bottle. In fact if you have the cash you can purchase you very own personal drone. The Air Force memo, which actually has little to do with drones, attempts to draw boundaries to protect civil liberties in the pursuit of national security as it pertains to gathering intelligence from aerial platforms. This is a good thing. Nowhere in the memo does it recommend spying on folks with golf ball size drones. So the question is, when is the use of drone technology appropriate for the government to use against it's own citizens? It would certainly be wrong for government to spy on our political and social behaviors, but what if the use of drone surveillance could have prevented the Oklahoma City or 9/11 bombings?
e.t. sims June 13, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Since our personal privacy is already a thing of the past with all the "eavesdropping" on our phones & surveillance cameras at every intersection & sign post.It sounds like they'd be great for target practice before dove /duck season
Joe Harrison June 13, 2012 at 10:55 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/drones-watching-15661073
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 06:45 AM
If your cars stuck in the mud it ain't going very far. If we can get the mudslinging republicans out of the way, perhaps we can get that car to moving.
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 06:48 AM
Most of that stuff is there because it make the police work move a little faster. The traffic monitors enable them to collect more money on tickets with less cost. It ain't there to scope out what your doing in the front seat of your car so the police can entertain themselves in the lounge room. Let's face it... the great majority of Americans are pretty much uninteresting. They are mostly just corporate slaves, if they aren't running their own business.
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 06:49 AM
Good point.
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 06:51 AM
I look up and all I see are red-tail hawks and an occasional flock of geese. With my binoculars I can see that that racook in the tree is a real racoon.
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 06:54 AM
The Air Force, like the rest of the military and the CIA, isn’t supposed to conduct “nonconsensual surveillance” on Americans domestically, according to an Apr. 23 instruction from the flying service. But should the drones taking off over American soil accidentally keep their cameras rolling and their sensors engaged, well … that’s a different story." If I see a flock of drones flying around my home, I'll assume they are watching my neighbors, whom I think are actually Russian spys.
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 06:57 AM
You can buy your own drone at walmart for less than a hundred dollars and spy on your neighbors. Did you know that many of those radio controlled helicopters at walmart can fly onto a military base and not be detected? They are too small.
moon stroller June 14, 2012 at 07:01 AM
Let me see.... helicopter drone being bounced about on the wind makes perfect shot with rubber bullet into a crowd of people and takes out the bad guy and misses the lady holding the baby? I don't think we are there yet so nothing to fear. Helicopter with taser moves in the take suspect down but instead chops off his head with the helicopter blades. I don't think we are there yet. Most if these articles show that the author did not do any serious thinking about how a device such as a drone, could accomplish it objective. Many people believe that the transport device seen on star trek is really operational at CIA headquarters.
Racer X August 04, 2012 at 08:15 PM
We need to get all the partisan mudslingers out of the way, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian and Tea Party. Yes, Obama sucks, Bush sucked too. Maybe we could elect both of them so they can suck together? Anyone can place blame but not many people have any decent answers.

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