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Do You Feel Pressured to Support TSPLOST?

Local municipalities, chambers of commerce and even businesses are mobilizing to get voters to the polls in support of TSLOST on July 31. How to you feel about this effort?

It’s no secret that most municipalities are urging a "yes" vote on TSPLOST. Without it, local governments are going to have to look at other ways to raise funds for traffic and transportation projects. But did you know local chambers of commerce and even businesses have been recruited to do the same thing?

According to Jim Galloway, political insider for the Atlanta Journal Constitution, more than 400 businesses, including some of metro Atlanta’s largest, have signed on to turn out extra voters who have been given a firm understanding of the importance of a “yes” vote on July 31. Sam Williams, president and CEO of Metro Atlanta Chamber, which is reportedly coordinating the turnout effort, has said the effort is even bigger than the Tea Party.

Galloway added that most voters expected to turn out for the primary will be Republican.

"Not a deck stacked for passage of a new sales tax," he wrote. However, the voters who turn out at the behest of their employers may behave more like moderate voters, which could make a difference in a close contest.

Do you feel the pressure yet? How do you feel about such a large, coordinated effort to get you to check "yes" for TSPLOST on July 31?

American Patriot June 25, 2012 at 11:48 am
Since I work for myself I feel no pressure but I know others that do. I don't think it's right but that is the way it is. Most of the companies I see supporting the tax are directly tied to the projects. If it does not pass there is a good chance there will not be enough work to support their current workforce and they are letting their people know it. I can't blame them for that. I still hope it get's shot down and reworked in time for Nov so we could have more local control over they money then I believe it would have a better chance of passing
Sharon Swanepoel (Editor) June 25, 2012 at 01:01 pm
I have mixed feelings on this. I wish better care had been taken of the funding in the past. However, I'm inclined to support a consumption tax instead of an income or property tax. However, the key there is "instead of" and not "in addition to" and I'm afraid that will not be the case. I think it will just be more tax instead of an alternative tax.
Karsten Torch June 25, 2012 at 02:27 pm
Not at all. In fact, I'm feeling pressure to not support it. Pressure from myself, but still....
This will fund projects in Fulton and Dekalb, and be paid for by folks in the surrounding counties. And pretty much none of the projects on the list will do anything to improve traffic. Let's combine that with the government's complete inability to spend money responsibly, and you can pretty much guarantee that I won't be supporting this bill, and be encouraging others to do the same.....
Bonnie June 25, 2012 at 03:28 pm
Couldn't agree more!
American Patriot June 25, 2012 at 04:02 pm
Our SPOST that ends in 2014 has collected $318.2 million from 2009 to Feb 2012. I would be more inclined to keep that tax instead of a regional one. At least keep the money here. Love the way the DOT proposes penalizes regions who don't go along with them. They need a good kick in the butt even thinking about that. How arrogant!
Rebecca McCarthy (Editor) June 25, 2012 at 04:10 pm
There will be no "re-working" of this measure. It has been in the works for years, with meetings of elected officials in the individual counties to come up with the various projects, then vetting of the projects by the state, organizing, etc. This is the one chance to pass this, or not. Each county will get 25 percent of the money to be used on local projects as the local transportation folks and local community members see fit.
Dawn Siska June 25, 2012 at 04:25 pm
In the words of my very WISE husband, "NEVER vote FOR taxes of any kind. It's like putting something into a bucket without a bottom." There will never be enough money and they will always want more. They need to do what families across this great country do every day ... prioritize their budget and know the difference between "wants and needs".
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew June 25, 2012 at 04:29 pm
With each passing day the effort to pass TSPLOST seems to feel more and more like; “We have to pass it, to find out what’s in it”…
Pressure? What pressure? I feel as though I’m standing between a junkie and his/her fix, it’s UNNERVING… BUT I am going to “Just say NO!” If you can’t justify something clearly after spending MILLIONS of dollars to do so and then have to admit it WON’T do what your ads claim - what’s the point? Per ARC - NO impact on commute times. When officials like our governor have to say they are NOT supporting a tax increase in conflict with pledges they made to the get elected – “because the people are voting it” and it’s “NOT a legislative action” - to the point even POLITICFACTS calls Flip-Flop and Pants on Fire,REPEATEDLY. (For the record - If it wasn’t a legislative ACTION, how did it get to the ballot sir?) Many local government are planning to use their estimated 10 Percent or so cut to close out pre-existing TSPLOST projects within their own jurisdictions, could that be because they didn’t collect enough sales taxes as they forecasted locally? Transportation shouldn’t be "HARD Sold" like Mike’s Lemonade or a Time-Share, but if you have to, maybe this bill is NOT the best way to go and they KNOW it...
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew June 25, 2012 at 04:33 pm
Pass it or we will all DIE!!!
Sorry as soon as this fails, the valuable components will find a way to be done!!!
R++ One of the Famous Dacula Crew June 25, 2012 at 06:37 pm
Thats actually your state representatives who need that kick, just call it a vote.
ACC-SEC Booster June 25, 2012 at 10:19 pm
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No, but I definitely feel pressured to vote AGAINST it, and rightfully so.
ACC-SEC Booster June 25, 2012 at 10:42 pm
That's government's answer to every need, isn't it, perceived or real, to raise taxes?
How about instead of new taxes on EVERYONE, why not just let the people who use a certain infrastructure, service or good, pay for it? Need a new road? Let the people who will use that new road pay for it with individual fees levied upon each use of the new road. Need improvements to an existing road? Let the people who use that existing road pay for it with individual fees levied upon each use of the existing road. Need a new rail or bus transit line? Let the people who will use that new rail or bus transit line be responsible for the cost of its construction with individual fees levied upon each use of the transit infrastructure in the form of FARES paid each time someone uses the transit line. If you use it, you should pay for it. If you don't use it, you shouldn't have to pay for it, it's that simple!
ACC-SEC Booster June 25, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Exactly. The first sales tax in Georgia was levied more than half-a-century ago and the state has been raising it ever since under the guises of funding increased needs everytime it is raised.
Enough-is-enough! The sales tax, or most any taxes will never be enough to fund this state's seemingly increasingly needs, including this wholly inadequate T-SPLOST which is a lazy, half-hearted, uninspired and misguided attempt to fund only a mere fraction of this region's estimated $160 billion in transportation needs while also attempting to shield the public from the TRUE and POLITICALLY-UNFLATTERING COSTS of providing, maintaning and expanding transportation infrastructure.
Shawn June 25, 2012 at 11:04 pm
Pressure to support it? Yes, DO I support it? NO!
ACC-SEC Booster June 25, 2012 at 11:07 pm
If the State of Georgia wants to adequately fund the increasing costs of operating, maintaining and expanding the transportation infrastructure of a perennially growing Sunbelt and Coastal state which is always in rising demand, then the state needs to abolish the gas tax on all Georgia drivers while increasing the gas tax on all out-of-state drivers and vehicles and implementing a distance-based usage fee on all in-state drivers for the use of each major road so that each individual major road is able for adequately fund its own unique set of infrastructural needs during its lifespan (initial construction and continuing operation and maintenance).
The same distance-based user fee approach can also be used to fund the initial construction and continuing operation, maintenance and expansion costs of transit lines, which collect at least a partial user fees each time a passenger boards a bus and pays a fare. Transit fares must be raised to cover much more, if not all, of the cost of constructing, operating, maintaining and expanding transit lines, if transit, like roads, is to be fully-funded to the point of being effective enough to help traffic flow smoothly.
Mike Jones June 25, 2012 at 11:31 pm
As a member of the Loganville City Council, I am encouraging all my friends and constituents to vote "No" to TSPLOST. Unlike our local SPLOST, we have very little control or benefit from TSPLOST. Our taxes are too high now. Mike Jones
M.K. Osborne June 26, 2012 at 02:36 am
No ............. that wasn't hard at all!
MDG June 26, 2012 at 05:28 pm
Pressure to support it? Y-E-S!
Pressure to not support it? Y-E-S!
Racer X July 21, 2012 at 12:01 pm
If a region votes NO for this tax but the rest of the State passes it, then that region will still have to pay the tax while getting a 20% cut in benefits. What I hear them saying is "Vote for TSPLOST.....or else!". That, people, is extortion, extortion perpetrated by our State government on us and that is wrong. Anyone who votes yes on this tax is voting yes for the government to make gains through threats. At the end of the day, no matter what, we cannot pass the TSPLOST or we are lost.
Dawn Siska and her husband are absolutely right. Government is an insatiable monster and feeding this monster only makes it more powerful. The government needs to learn how to use what money they already get more wisely just as ALL of us have to do. You don't end government waste by giving them more money. Please people, vote NO on the TSPLOST!
Racer X July 21, 2012 at 12:28 pm
They built the HOV lanes in Atlanta, supposedly, to encourage car pooling. This to reduce the number of cars on the road. Why? They said it was so we could have cleaner air, would be good for our environment and reduce congestion. So, we said, heck yes, what a great idea and the HOV lanes were built.
Flash forward to today. The HOV lanes outside of the perimeter are no longer HOV lanes and have been converted to pay lanes. Apparently State government decided their addiction to our money is more important than our need for clean air and less congestion. Thanks, that great, what a great bunch of great folks, our government. Here comes the TSPLOST. The problem, they say, is that our roads are too congested. We need to untie Georgia, they say. Now, instead of coming up with ways to encourage people to drive less, the solution is to build BIGGER roads. Greeeeeeat. Let's encourage people to drive even more. Now we consume more fuel, which also puts more money in the State's coffers. Pollution, meanwhile, gets worse, government waste increases, and our quality of living goes down. The TSPLOST is NOT the answer.

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