Woman needs some practice so she doesn't have to waste so much ammo. Always shoot for the middle..

I was going to say that. We need to take her to the range. After several shots, he definitely shouldn't be in critical condition....

Dumb asses!! That is my neighbor and she is a hell of a shot! She hit him 5x, 4 in the chest and one in the face.
Get your info correct before making comments as sure.
It would more prudent to ask how her children are and how they will be effected by such a horrible act as witnessing first hand their mother shot a man.

Wow. Relax. Seriously....

Tell her congratulations. I enjoy hearing these kinds of stories. I hate they have to happen - I don't think anybody should have to go through this. But, I like it much better when the victim isn't hurt. But, I like it MUCH better when the perp is dead at the scene. Just sayin....

And yes, not easy on children, either. Hopefully they'll recover from this experience and learn what happens when you enter somebody else's property with the intention of doing harm.

And yeah, wow, 4 in the chest and one in the face. All I saw was "several times" and assumed, you know, arms, legs, whatever. Surprised anybody lives after taking 4 in the chest then one in the bean. In that case, you're right - she IS a hell of a shot.

Oh, and since he isn't dead, she has a good chance of winding up in court. If that happens, let us all know and we'll take up donations for her....

My kinda woman......Congratulations on protecting yourself and your children!!

Good job!

She and the children are so blessed that she had the gun and the courage to use it!
Praying for the children and her to get through the aftermath of this just fine. Hopefully, the stress of a trial won't be necessary, but if it is I pray it is over and done with quickly.

If this guy knew her and the kids were in the house and went after them, it wasn't just a "burglary". The bastard was most likely going to rape one or more of them and possibly kill them as well. Either that or he is one dumb ass burglar! And for the record, even a judge and jury as stupid as our present president could figure out things wouldn't have went well for that woman and kids had this asshole gotten a hold of them, which was obviously his intent. If all would be criminals received a similar welcome I bet it would stop alot of crime. Hat's off to Kennesaw GA for their foresight...

Folks are on this one like white on rice.

Good Job ------- Paul Slater is one step closer to HE (LAVLEN) Choose some.

Sorry you had to go through that but thank you for taking one off the streets for us and so glad you and your family are safe.

Good for her! I hate that she and her children had to endure that and they'll be in my prayers tonight.

Kudos!! I'm glad she was trained on the use of the firearm and pulled the trigger in a high stress situation and shot this Dirt bag. Go to the gun range and practice, practice and practice!

YOU ARE A HERO. YOU SAVED not only your life but probably countless others by refusing to be a victim. THANKYOU AND MY PRAYERS ARe WITH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AT THIS TIME. That predator hopefully will either change his life as I pray he does or think twice before he does this again

If he is thinking of this again. I hope his injuries prevent it and if it doesn't injure him enough, I hope he ends up in prison a long time. AS a resident, I would like to know if he is ever released so as a community we can keep an eye on him. I know he lives on.
rosebud according to public records. WE HAVE A RIGHT NOT TO BE A VICTIM but I am not promoting vigilante justice but cooperation with our police who I respect and am thankful for.

I wonder which one our Loganville Grayson Patch readers was the shooter? Way to go shooter! The oaf had no business running up into someone's attic.

WTG Mama....4 times...6 time....she hit him, that's what counts...Even if she was a super shot, she was also protecting her kids and had more then one thing on her mind...I say congrats.

5 bucks says it was an obama voter ! possibly a green car also with the obama 2012 sticker on da back

This is a demonstration of why big guns and large magazines are desirable. If she can't handle something with a larger caliber, a larger magazine would help. And, I'm thankful there was only one of them.

any woman should be able to handle a 9mm or .40 cal. Personally, I prefer the .45ACP with 200 gr. XTP hollow points which I load myself. The .40 cal. is nearly as powerful and is used by the FBI and many other LE agencies....typically it's magazine holds 10 rounds. Based on the research I've done and read concerning Wound Ballistics, the .45ACP has a 97% first shot disable or kill ratio with a properly placed shot to center mass........I conceal carry one or the other......

but for the home, a shotgun with alternating slugs and buckshot is awesome

I hope it was me who taught her how to shoot!

Im so glad to hear that she wasnt just another murdered victim......she defened her children and herself...so I say GOOD JOB.

Funny how stories like this bring out all of the "armchair quarterbacks". I hate that this has happened anywhere, much less so close to my home. I'm sure an investigation will reveal whether this was targeted or truly random. I'm proud of this woman for standing up for herself & her children. She is to be greatly admired. Funny how so many people say "I would have..." or "she should have..." Question is could YOU have ? I mean REALLY ? I do carry a handgun & know how to use it. But I'm not sure my wife would have been able to pull that trigger. And Tim, for the record, you're wrong. NOT every woman can handle a 9mm or .40 cal. My wife would do good to be able to shoot (properly) anything bigger than a .22 cal. As much as shot placement plays an important role I'm afraid a .22 would be pretty ineffective against a male of any size hopped up on meth.

I probably wouldn't or couldn't. A. It seems terribly messy (blood spatter is only good to watch on TV), and B. I couldn't live in the house ever again if the robber dies.

Hey Cooper.....That comment had nothing to do with the story...Barry won the election, get over it!
Kudos to the woman with the courage and foresight to arm herself and learn how to use the proper tool at the correct time. If this happened every time someone tried to break in, maybe the break ins would slow down. I was one the fence about going to the range today..now I know I am going!

Amy, with enough practice and comfort with the weapon, you could protect your family. I do a lot of 'trying on' before I buy a pistol to see if it feels good in my hand, and if it is easy to sight. There are so many different brands and styles that, for me, shopping necessary.

As Wayne LaPierre of the NRA stated recently.."..the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun(or weapon) is a good guy or woman with a gun"

David, properly trained physically and mentally, a woman could well handle either of those weapons. It is a matter of training and shooting at a range until she is throughly familiar with the operation of the pistol and facing and overcoming any fear she may have towards them. Otherwise, how would one protect themselves? I hope this incident motivates many women that read this to purchase a weapon and become trained how to use it properly.

The truth is Cops arrive in time to draw the chalk lines, it is your responsibility to make sure that it is not around You.

I hope the asshole doesn't make it,he is a 6 time repeat offender and I doubt he has learned his lesson plus it will save us tax payers money not have this coward getting 3 square meals a day,my hat goes off to the brave woman and god bless her and her family .

Glad she and her children are safe!! I hope, but don't expect, that this story goes nation wide. This just proves that "gun control" should mean hitting what is aimed at!

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32-year-old Loganville man

37- year old shooter

38- caliber handgun

Sounds like great Lotto numbers

a 12 ga. has alot of recoil, she might could handle a 20 ga. much better with the magazine extention....

a 12 ga. has alot of recoil, she might could handle a 20 ga. much better with the magazine extention....

Good for her! She probably shot im with a .22 ... bad for her. Sheneeds to get a gun that shoots BIGGER bullits! You hear me girl? I.m an old lady. When my husband died, I went to the gun store and told the man I wanted a gun that would stop a big man with one shot,(because logically speaking, that's the only chance I might get! He fixed me up, and I'm happy with his choice! GET A GUN THAT SHOTS BIGGER BULLITS!

S
DO NOT mess with a "mama bear and her cubs" especially if she's packing...i am a female with a small hand, and a 38 special fits nicely, fires nicely, and with hollow bullets, can take care of business. periodic trips to the shooting range keeps me comfortable with it...

She needs a snake/slayer -- Shoots 45 and 410 at close range, he would have no where to run!

Let her reload and have another go at it.

For all you that say this lady needs practice, know not what you speak. The problem is that it is a 38 cal. Had it been a 45 or 357 he would have not been able to move much less drive. She did just what she should have and that is unload the revolver. Don't stop shooting until it clicks and then reload if you must. This guy was shot in the head multiple times and in the neck. He was shot in the stomach and the liver, if he isn't dead, he was in horrible pain and I'm glad for that. The woman did everything right and unloaded the revolver. My question for the ones saying she is a bad shot, could you have even pulled the trigger if in the same situation? I was a Military Policeman in Vietnam and I saw grown men big enough to play on any NFL team freeze in fear under certain situations and they were highly trained! I'm proud of this lady and she should be rewarded with a medal.
Tony Sills, Loganville, GA.

Good for her

Please keep the Herman family in your thoughts and prayers. Very few people will truly comprehend the effect an incident like this may have on their family. I offer my solemn support. She has, by her actions, ensured her and her children’s' lives and safety past that encounter. That is as close to a perfect outcome as can be hoped for in that situation.
I encourage anyone reading this to become informed about the use of firearms in self-defense, whether they choose to accept the responsibility or not. Books by Col Jeff Cooper, Massad Ayoob, Don Mann and other experts in the field are good places to start. Law enforcement is not and can never be personal bodyguards for each of us. They are a first line of defense. The last line will always be the individual.
Cogito, ergo armatum sum.
I think, therefore I am armed.

Ex-Burglars Say Newspaper's Gun Map Would've Made the Job Easier, Safer
I stand amazed that MSNBC published this but here it is:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/50364599/ns/local_news-wichita_falls_tx/

Don't see any liberals talking about this news item. Hummmm. Do you suppose they don't read stories about home defense or 'good' news about guns? Talk about hypocrites.

Yes, by all means! Let's take away this woman's gun! She deserves to be robbed, rape & maybe murdered for being a responsible, single parent raising her children. How dare she hurt a man just out doing his job in his chosen profession as a career criminal.
The mother of the scooter in CT was totally irresponsible. She knew he needed to be commited and yet he had access to an AR-15? If she was alive I would demand that SHE be prosecuted as an accessory to murder!
Guns are tools. Anybody thing you can't murder someone with a hammer? Another deadly weapon? A barrel pen. How about knitting needles? GET A GRIP. The tool is a tool, not an evil thing. If George Washington had handed over his rifle we would all have British accents. If Eisenhower had, we'd speak German. Any questions?

Too bad she only fired five times. Only the innocent homeowner(s) should have survived! The dirtbag should be in the morgue.

Good for her she snould get an award for takeing that scum bag of the street.

good for her time to fight back against these punks !!

Oh my God, I hope she wasn't using an assault weapon, she would be crucified by the media. The poor, poor man. Diane Feinstein would be mortified, unless of course she shot the man with her personal carry weapon, but of course only she is allowed to protect herself, not an ex-marine who owns a weapon!!!

Shooting him 5 times she will probably be charged with using "excessive force

Dudley, my guess is that she owned a .38 with a 5 round cylinder. While low capacity, the hammerless models are great for women, and they are light, east to use and won't snag anything in the purse when being taken out for use.

As to the round choice. I have always loaded Hydra-shok rounds in all my handguns. The kick a little harder, but in the heat of a gunfight you wont notice!
I also practice with both FMJ and JHP, just to see how my pistol reacts to feeding both types of ammo.

@ Wes Jones - I had the same thought. Smart enough to know it's not a winnable battle with a real life, close to home example, I suppose.

Yep, just as I suspected. The Antigun bunch nowhere to be found. Had this guy killed this woman and her children, the antigun bunch would be on it like a fly on a terd. But she defended herself and her family. Thats not what the antigun news media and antigun politicians want. They like weak minds, helps push the agenda they want.

She is a hero. This perp is a scumbag that got what he deserved. That said, all the wantabe "Buffalo Bills" on here need to read the stats that show this is a highly unusual case, and that many more are killed by sucides, kids shooting kids, drunks or druggies shooting others, domestic disputes and so on. While I am glad she had a means of defense, she is lucky she was not pistol whipped, the gun stuck up her backside and her head blown off, along with the kids. Don't know anything about the location and circumstances but, if you got to the attic what about the back door? Just a question. Before all the outraged cries from the gun nuts, I own three. The 12 ga pump with double OO is the "last line of defense". The chances one would ever need more than 10 rounds in any situation like this is greater than being hit by lightening or an astroid. Give up this nonsense. Col Colt won the west with a six shooter. We need more???????????? Only in your computer game fantacies!

Good story, mother at home with her children hide in an attic after an intruder come in, finds her and she shoot him 5 times. Happy ending, children are safe, mother is safe, house is safe, intruder in the hospital and going to jail. These are the stories I like to read now a days, the good guys win.

too bad he is not dead

Pine is right. Shoot for the middle. These bums need to kick around awhile before they expire. A head shot is to quick and much to humane for trash like this . They need time to think about what they have done to everyone before they leave this earth. Also, pain purifies. Men like this are not killed by the gun, they are killed by their own decisions,choices, actions, and ignorance. Shoot em all.

My condolances to the children. However, wake up conservative, non shooting Americans. There are Politicians that want to take guns away from all Americans. Shame on them. What would have happened to this brave Mother, and her innocent children if the Mom did not have a self defence weapon. Rape, multiple stab wounds, innocent family members murdered, or worse.
In societies where guns are banned and confiscated, crime rate goes up. Criminals know they are safe. Is this what you want for your children and your families. Gun nuts avoid areas where they know their targets own and know how to use guns. Please research these facts.
I do not own any AR-15 or other semi-automatic guns, but I thank GOD for my neighbors and friends that do.
Enough said. Purchase a self defense weapon, and learn how to use it. You will help the USA economy, and be safer at the same time. TGR in Alpharetta, GA 30004.

Fortunately this didn't occur in Clayton or Dekalb county. When going to trail he might get off, abused as a child.After seeing who they elct, God knows what their jury pool would do. Kodus to this mother for doing what was right in protecting her children. Definitely contribute if goes to trail.

CARL, ex military 26 years service.
She did an excellent job defending herself and family. Women are usually instinctively excellent shots and with a little range time and practice can become experts. The current olympic gold medal champion for the past 3 years is a woman. I hope that idiot that tried to rob or rape her dies so she doesn't get sued for defending herself, she's forunate she's in GA. because in CA. the criminal is always right and the would be victims are considered criminals if they defend themselves.True she has the same dunderheaded President as the rest of us but at least her State isn't run by a govenor called Moonbeam and associates who are anti-gun and pro criminal.

@ carl - lolol Well California gave us the likes of Barbara Boxer and Nancy Pelosi - need we say more?

So where are all the anti-gun nuts now? Your ideas about guns are always taken away and used against you, or you will freeze and not be able to shoot, or you will shoot the bystanders. WHY doesn't these stories make the big news?

Good exmple of the seSecond Admendment at work! And. as a LEO Firearrms Instructor from 1991-2008, when I retired, other than a .50 caliber BMG round, there are going to be those tiimes when bullets should seem to kill but don't. That is the Murphys Law of Use of Force. She stopped him from hurting her and her children, that is primarily what a handgun is good for. There is one documented case where it took over a dozen pistol caliber rounds and two slugs from a twelve gauge ( and some buckshot if I remember ) before a man went down and died. So rather than get wrapped around the axle about .38 vs 357, vs .40. vs. 45 etc, etc, let us all agree; her pistol did what is was suppoded to do; saved her, her kids, gave her an equalizer. God Created Man, Col. Colt made them all Equal! Have a nice day!

Only 5 shots? I thought guns held 6 bullets.

good work, you protected your home, children, and yourself, its a shame he did not die, the piece of shit, thats why everyone should own a gun, if she did not have a gun, then we would have read in tomorrow papers woman and 2 children dead, home intruder on the run

Good for her. Hope he dies. One less mouth to feed in prison for the rest of his useless life.

If the intruder would have had a gun, he would've been able to defend himself.

-NRA

WHAT U TALKIN BOUT NRA ,when an intruder breaks in ,hes lookin for any weopon layin around or above tha mantle ,to use on u if u jus happen to come home and accidently run upon THEMB ! remember weopons are best kept out of site out of mind .

DUH! Only stupid burglars try rob a home when the owner is there. 99% of home burglaries occur when nobody his home. Most burgulars are smart enough to know that if you try to rob a home when the owner is home he might get shot. The guy was a complete idiot. Like DUH didn't he see all the cars in the driveway?

Depending on the laws in her state, she could be charged with assault with a deadly weapon. The man was unarmed, and a homeowner cannot use deadly force unless their life is in immediate danger.

People have been charged with homicide and manslaughter in some states for killing an unarmed burglar. The class example is shooting or killing the burglar as he is climbing out the window to escape. Since the home owner was not in immediate danger while he was trying to flee, there was no justification to use deadly force.

the judge at academy sports is a good home defence pistol ,5 shot 410 or 357

As sad as it was at Sandy Hook CT, here is an example of why people should still have a weapon in their home and know how to protect themselves & family. This story didn't say if the intruder was armed or not. At a time when someone is breaking into your home you can't assume that person is not armed with some kind of weapon. I'm hoping she has a lic. for her weapon.

As a a retired Fed, I can recall our training: one to the body, two to the head. That usually ends all speculation.

GAJ - If I'm correct (and I hope I am), I think as long as they are in your home, you're safe. It's when they are running across your yard after the fact that you can end up with dangling pieces. If he had the tire iron still in his hand, it is considered a deadly weapon, so she certainly could have felt that her life was in danger. I think she's ok as far as Georgia goes.

There's a lot of dufus comments here about the mother's shooting skill and the burglar's mental acuity (and from people who failed to read all of the article)but 'Judith Kenny' hit the nail on the head. The mother did everything right; she collected her kids and hid in the attic but this guy, even though he had free access to everything in the house, hunted her down in the attic, so he wasn't just interested in burglary. He was a local and may well have known she would be alone with her kids. However, when a normal citizen is forced to shoot a criminal, they almost always have issues to work through later. Shooting to kill someone is not a decision taken lightly and is a heavy burden for most people to carry. Here is a responsible gun-owner defending herself and her children. Over a million times a year, someone uses a gun to stop a crime (usually no shots are fired) but the anti-gunners would make victims of those people. Thankfully, this mother was armed and knew what to do. She gave the buglar every chance to just do his thing and leave but he didn't want to do that.

CG- perfect reply. Can't top that.

Good for her,,,she protected herself and her kids. That's a right you have in your home. If you don't want to get shot,,,simply don't be where you shouldn't. That's how simple it is. Abide by the law,,, don't trespass, don't break in to someones property.

PG - see that's what's wrong with society today. We've let a certain faction of people take over and try to change our laws to give more rights to the perpetrator of a crime than to the victim. That's what's we're fighting here. The right to defend your home is a basic right that should not be touched. There was a time that if you broke the law, you paid for the crime. Not anymore. Now people look for reasons that a person committed a crime and he/she gets off. Well, let them find out the why's while serving their time. I know for a fact that there are tons of resources for those that are locked up. If you're dangerous then you don't need to be in the mainstream with everyone else, which in my mind violates the rights of innocent people.

She shot him 5 times.....So, Where Is The Problem. He is still breathing, so, that means the tax payers are going to have to support another worthless retard who will get a lawyer to take his case to sue this poor girl.... her only mistake was that she didn't kill this goof.

I am am waiting to see if the national news media picks up on this news about a gun owner saving her childrens lives. If she would not have been armed we would be hearing about two more children and their mom...............................in a different light.

Yep. All the armchair sharpshooters come out of the woodwork like cockroaches and try to convince everybody that they could have done better or what she should have done all while they weren't there and did not know the whole scenario. Fact is the police are not accurate and even snipers need time to set up their shots.

The good news from this bad scene is that this criminal with a record problably won't be motivated to break into another home. We need more success stories like this allowed into our liberal news media. We should all applaud her courage. And yes she needs a larger caliber gun. God bless her and her children. Her neighborhood will probably benefit as well.

,,,Nice job lady...remember: practice makes perfect......yup

I can't believe how some of the "armchair combat wannabes" are saying such stupid things on this post. You make it obviously clear to people who really know that you have no idea what you are talking about and have NEVER been in a position where someone was trying to actually take your life. I can tell you now that this young mother with children in a dark cramped space exhibited more nerve and cool then any of you fools would and I would rather have her in a firefight with me then any of you tools. I have seen trained soldiers panic and freeze in their first engagement. One thing I do know is never mess with a mother protecting her offspring be it man or beast..

am so tired on these “armchair combat wannabes” on here posting their dribble about how it took her 5 shots or “I would of done this” nonsense. You made it obviously clear to the people that actually know that you have NEVER been in a combat situation so please save yourself some embarrassment and shut up. I have seen trained soldiers freeze in their first combat engagement and this was a mother with scared kids in a dark confined space defending her family. I would rather have her with me in a firefight than any of you tools! Also goes to show you that you never mess with a mother protecting her offspring be it man or beast..

Hmmmm. She should have been given more Gun Control. She needs classes on more Gun Control. Georgia should give classes on how to hit more accuratly what you are shootin at. She should have been required to kill the repeated criminal scum bag within two shots. Or at least one head shot. He will heal. Be released. Then break in and kill nest time. If he hasn't already. Gun Control should be the law. Control your ability to hit and kill what you shot at. God Bless her. But I'm sure all you cry baby libs would rather she had no gun and just talked her way out of danger.

This is a good outcome, but rare. A hand gun in the home is 43 times more likely to be used to shot a person famaliar to the gun owner (ie: Friend, Family Member, or Self.) 43 TIMES MORE LIKELY IS TAKING A BIG RISK.

What a bigot she is. He was a victim of society. She should have asked him about his unhappy childhood.

Yes I do. All I can say is Go Girl. You saved your children from harm. I am certain that was your only thought - your children. I think about the gun laws and they only protect a small persentage of Americans. Unfortunately I can not be one of them. I am 56 years old and if that were to happen to me I would have to try and ward off an intruder with a bat . Simply because I did something stupid when I was 17. I/followed a crowd I should not have and obtained a felony. It has been close to 40 years ago and that still prevents me from owning a weapon to protect my family. If I own protection I just go to jail, not the crook. The government wants the guns out of felons hands. All they are doing is to keep them out of the hands of citizens like myself, that have no intention of harm to anyone. If a felon with a goal wants a gun, he will find one. I guarnntee one of his accomplaces will have one readally avaliable. So until our government realizes this I will continue to arm my house with ash instead of lead. If anyone that reads this would like to comment please E-mail me @ owensrandy@ gmail.com. again I commend you for the action you took to protect your family. To me you are a hero.
My best wishes for you and your family,
Randy

Do burglars usually go searching in an attic to steal something? Usually they want to get in and out quickly and take what is readily available. There is something very fishy about this story.

Such heartless ppl! My heart goes out to tis lady n her babies they r alive n yes she protected her her babies n her property bein put n tat situation how can u ppl write all tis stuff??? They r alive tats all tat matters n someone breaks n ur home would u hv time to choose Wat gun u will use? NO don't tk so at lease she had d chance to grab d gun n hide her n her children most ppl panic so stop with all yalls heartless remarks n tk God she n her children r ok under such circumstances!!! My prayers r with her n her babies as a mother myself I applaude her!!! So stop with all tis should've bullshit ok!!! God Bless

She should have reloaded and shot him 5 more times to make sure he was dead!

Joe
Ocean Springs, MS

Off course main street media is avoiding this story like the plague as it doesn't fit in with their anti-gun agenda.

this woman is my niece, she had a 38 special, shot him once in the face, blowing off part of it along with his teeth, he was shot in the neck, the kidney, the lung, and the stomach - he had to be on some sort of drug to be able to keep going. Her and the kids had to step over him from the crawl space to get away - with him still trying to get at them. Please pray for the family as they will have a lot of sleepless nights over this, especially if the scumbag lives. I wouldn't doubt that she wishes she would have stopped and reloaded and many suggested - but her goal was to get the kids to a safe area - not think she was in a Die Hard movie

God bless and be with this brave woman who faced a horrible nightmare in her own home. She and her husband and children will need lots of support and prayers. Evidently she was well prepared and reacted in the best way she could.

I do think it's creepy to have so many celebratory comments when a young family has just experienced such a violation of their home and family. There seem to be many experts on shoulda/coulda/woulda. Let them have some semblance of peace. Be respectful. The bad guy was stopped. This outcome is probably the exception and not the rule. Maybe some of the information posted will help the next victims survive. Thank God this family survived . . . with the gun and help from angels, I believe.

Bob M, I gave the brave mother and the gun credit. I'm sure you can find statistics that show whatever you want them, too, via different and differing sources. If this outcome were more common than not, people would probably pay a lot less attention than this case is getting. The news report I heard Friday night said that the victim told police she was worried the intruder would get his hands on the other gun she left out in the open. That's an example of a possible different outcome, among many others. I just feel that everyone should wait and see if the family makes a statement. If not, the speculation is just that. None of us was present. No one knows what they would do in similar circumstances . . . some just think they do.

What is the status of the intruder? Some sources say that he died. I can only hope.

http://tnsmartgirl.com/2013/01/06/school-shooting-in-tennessee-that-national-media-did-not-report/

Ppl spitting off at the mouth about how she needs practice and she needs a bigger caliber, have you ever been in this situation? Didn't think so. Shut your mouth! She did a fi e job. You too would be scared to death. I've seen grown men freeze up in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan and these were trained men.

would it be wrong for me to say I hope the medical staff took their sweet time when the intruder arrived at the hospital. the mom did good. how many of us would have had the nerve, much less aim if they were involved in a home invasion?

let me get my documents together so I can go register for a class and then apply for a some back-up.

"I went to the movies with my pistol in my pocket the whole time I was praying that somebody would try to pull a Batman!" Keith Ratliff. RIP Keith. Live by the gun. Die by the gun.

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Great job momma. There is nothing she did wrong. I am an LEO wife and welcome someone to " try" to welcome themself in my home uninvited. I will be more than happy to serve you up a few "shots" with my 5-shot .357 before the Calvary comes to relocate you to the morgue. Thumbs up momma hero.

I heard the 911 tape. If you haven't heard it, it will bring a lot of clarity as to why it is important to train and be prepared. She called her husband, who put her on 3 way with 911. He was coaching her through the whole thing. He said, "Do what I taught you..." He told them play by play what was happening. This man could have raped and killed her and those children. This is the very purpose of responsible gun omwnership. To PROTECT the family against those that would o them harm. If you haven't listened to it, I encourage you to do so.

What were the two comment? I know of one, and it was only slightly bad, not really offensive. I mean, he WAS black, but that really has no bearing on anything overall....

Plus, Amy, watch your phrasing, please. 'Murder' is a legal term, implying forethought and malice. This woman did what she had to do. Her duty, actually, if you want to know the truth. More of these stories need to be coming out, and more of these thug pieces of crap need to be removed from society.

Frankly, calling her a murderer is offensive in the highest sense....

Yeah, that's OK. Unlike some, I'm OK with being offended. I have no right to not be offended. I'll survive.

And as long as I'm picking nits, your concept of malice of forethought is the same as saying that if somebody buys a fire extinguisher for their house, they're hoping their house catches fire. Which I kind of doubt. A gun is a tool. Recreation, personal protection, whatever. And a gun had more uses than a fire extinguisher. So no, there is no malice. Nobody I know bought a gun so that they could kill somebody. And everybody I know prays nothing like this will ever happen to them, but hopes they have the courage and fortitude to do what this woman did.

Karsten, I am not writing this to you but to Amy. First Karsten, Amy has a screw loose. For her to say that that Mom was a killer is just about the sickest thing I have ever heard. If she purchased the kill because she wanted to kill someone because thats why people buy guns is nuts. If she was waiting to kill someone whey did she go up into the corner of her attic? Why not just sit and wait for him the break in then blow him away? Why was she scared Sh#tless? I have a number of guns. I am retired and I relax by target shooting. It not very easy to hit that little Bullseye with that little bullit and when you do it feels good and gets out alot of energy. I was just thinking. Does this amy drive a car? I wonder, is she driving around looking for a jaywalker to run over? Sounds just as crazy as her idea that people buy guns waiting to shoot someone.

Paul, Amy doesn't have a screw loose. This is what she honestly believes. It's born out of ignorance. And I don't mean that to say stupid. She's not that. She just doesn't understand. For her and others like her, guns exist for one purpose only. To kill. Take my analogy of a fire extinguisher. You buy it to out out fires. Guns shoot things. And in her mind, the only thing somebody would buy one for is to kill somebody. Again, its purely because of a misunderstanding of guns and their purpose.

People like Amy have a deep respect for life. Even for people like this scumbag that broke into the house and hunted down the woman and her family. Amy said earlier that she probably couldn't have pulled the trigger. But I'm willing to bet if it was her husband or children or mother that was being threatened, she would. But maybe not to defend herself. Again, some people hold all life sacred, and would rather be the ones killed than do the killing.

Karsten , First off, Thank You. You are right and I realize that and respect you for your out look. I just get so angry when people look at things through eyes like her. How anyone would think that someone would want to kill someone is crazy. I wish there was a way of finding out how that Mom is. I'm sure she is glad she was able to protect her kids but she must be torn up inside. I don't know her so in a way I am glad she didn't kill him. I don't know if she would be able to live with that. Thank You again for your point of view, it really made me think.

Food is a killer? Water is a killer? I'm not even sure what you're talking about here. And my analogies aren't ridiculous. Or tell me why you think they are. Again, I don't buy a fire extinguisher because I want to start a fire. I don't even particularly want to have to put out a fire. Just like me buying a gun does not mean I want to shoot somebody.

And again, I know that you only see guns from your narrow point of view. I get it. You see no other purpose. Especially since in this day and age we don't have to hunt for food any more. But some of us enjoy them. We enjoy shooting them, and we enjoy the level of security they give us.

The bible (for those who say they read it) gives a clear distinction between murder and killing. If you read translated versions, many times you'll see the word "kill". For instance, "God said, concerning animals, kill and eat". He didn't say "murder and eat". There is a word for "kill". Apostle Paul murdered christians wherever he could find them. In modern translations, it says "kill", but the word for murder is used in reference to those whose intent was evil. Jesus told the disciples to take their cloak AND their sword. Why? In the event someone might try to take their life unlawfully (murder them). To call someone a murderer (or killer) because they defend themselves is the ultimate in misinterpretation! I have mercy on the perp, and hope he finds redemption in his life. But, I want him locked up as long as he has the intent to harm innocent people. We're to be careful what we call people as those who have account before God. This woman will probably jump out of her skin every time she hears a fire cracker for the rest of her life. A car backfires, she fears. To call her anything but a victim, is, well, someone used the word ignorant. TO be ignorant is one thing; I'm ignorant about lot's of things, but we need to learn to keep our thinking from becoming so narrow that we defend wrong.
Deep respect for all life requires wisdom in knowing the difference between terms lest you agree with evil and allow it to flourish. Be gentle as lambs, yet shrewd as a serpent.

Amy - here is why people are frustrated with you. You get mad when someone wishes ill on a perp that wanted to harm an innocent woman and children (terrifying them) YET, you say this:
Keith Ratliff lived for his guns. Luckily for him, he died by the gun. I hope they never find his killer.
There is not excuse or reply for this. Then you get personal basically telling people that THEY need a higher level of thinking? really? You ridicule them as being ridiculous? One finger pointing at others is 4 pointing back at yourself. I think most of the productive conversations have been said on this one. Hasta lavista ya'll. See you on the next one.

Amy, You are a horses a#s

She's probably got a perp as a boyfriend......

Tammy, thank you. I didn't have a chance to respond yet. The hypocrisy is actually frightening. I can't believe I've humored this person for this long.

Amy, your logic is astounding. You are quite possibly the most screwed up person I've ever come across. You value life, unless that person happens to disagree with you. He owned guns, and didn't break any laws by doing so. But because he did something you don't happen to like, then good riddance. And hopefully the person that killed him gets away with it. Wow. You can safely go find other people to talk to now.

But at least at this point, we know she actually meant to say 'murder.'

My logic isn't that astounding Karsten. As a matter of fact, if you've ever taken a ride on an airplane and possibly leave the state of GA, you'll find that there plenty more like me. So now the horror of me wishing a killer is never found, compared to my disgust with you people for wishing an injured man dies.

So they didn't have an outstanding house, so now this criminal is not living up to what should be his expectations because of that? Again, you are seriously f&@$ed up. I just can't determine if you're serious, or a troll. Based on your other comments,I'm going with troll.

You feel free to comment all you want. I'm for with you. Completely. Oh, and just in case you are serious, I truly hope you find yourself in a position where you need help, and it doesn't come. In any form. Then you'll be praying for somebody like me to come and save your sorry ass.

And I'll go ahead and throw my apologies out to others. I don't normally attack people like this. But wishing that a law-abiding citizen's murderer gets away Scott free, to calling this hero a murderer, to casting aspersions on the family because their house isn't as nice as she thinks it should be. I'm just astounded here....

A question, is this guy going to live to be tried? This is not local to me and I can't find a report on his condition. Or on the medical bills that he certainly can't pay on his own. That might be a very nice follow up story as "we" are probably paying for it.

It looks like he's going to, last I heard. Which was sometime Friday, I think. Still serious, but stable. So yeah, we get to pay for this guy's medical care. But I'm sure somebody like Amy can justify that, too. Hell, maybe the lady that tried to murder him should pay for it?

Hurrah for this woman and her children. I don't know how many people would react this well. She tried to avoid confrontation and called for help. When it comes down to the last resort she did what she had to do. If this criminal was on drugs, there is no way to know how many bullets it would take to drop him.

Amy, You are a fool and not worth a answer. Your Dead to me.

There...I'm DEAD! (simulating a self inflicted knife being plunged into my heart....twisting it). Oops...I'm back.

Oh Lord Amy! A knife? Eeeeewww! You've been watching too many Chuckie movies! lol

Mr. Albright Jr. You apparently took my comment the wrong way . I was being a smart A$$ because of something else going on at the time. The only thing I see wrong is the man left the house on his own. He should have been carried out. The lady did a good enough job though as he didn't get far. I am proud of her for standing up to him. Unlike you I have no dogs, but my family knows when they come around they had better make noise so I can hear them or.